PayPal

Princeton Computer User Group

Tuesday, March 5th, 2002 6:30 pm

By Meagan Rodgers  www.dazed81.com

 

 

 

 

 

Think of Paypal as a bank account.  Think of PayPal as a bank.  It’s a very secure way for you to send money to anyone with an e-mail address.  You begin by opening a PayPal account. 

 

Please Follow This Link To Sign Up For PayPal

 

I accept payment through PayPal!

 

 

PayPal

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PayPal

 

 

        You will be taken to a sign up page and prompted to enter the following information, your name, address, zip code, telephone number, e-mail address, and a case sensitive password. 

You will be required to give your credit card number.  Keep in mind that your local bank’s debit/ATM card IS CONSIDERED A CREDIT CARD and WILL WORK IN PAYPAL’s System.  Once you take the steps to become a verified member, you may add a checking account and you can set your account to draw funds from either your credit/debit card or your bank account.  You can change this default or change this information for each transaction.  This will eliminate the need to use a credit card.  You will be required to give the system your bank routing number and your checking account number as well as your banks name and address.  Ron and I have discovered with experience that if you have a checking account with CITIZENS First National of Princeton, you WILL NOT be able to use your checking account through paypal.  This is NOT due to Paypal regulations, but instead due to the fact that Citizens does not wish to support this type of transaction, this is said to be common with small town banks.  But have no fear, if you have a checking account with Amcore Bank, Citizen’s First State (Walnut, Ohio, Wyanet) or with Union Bank (Tiskilwa, Princeton, Manlius, Tampico) you will have no problems with using PayPal in conjunction with your checking account. 

The positive side of PayPal is that your account numbers and credit card numbers DO NOT go to ANYONE including the person to whom you send money.  This information is COMPLETELY secure and never leaves paypal.  Your money is sent immediately to members of Paypal and debited from your checking account, or if you use a credit card, charged accordingly.  The money is then transferred to the recipients paypal account and they are able to either spend the money right out of their paypal account or deposit it to their checking account.  If you receive money you can do the same.  Keep it securely in your paypal account until you need to spend it or deposit it immediately into your bank account.  This is why PayPal is so powerful… no more waiting for those auction payments on eBay…. And this also makes it VERY simple to get the items you have won on eBay shipped immediately, without waiting for your money order to arrive or for your personal check to clear, and without giving the seller any information besides your mailing address to send your package.         

PLEASE know that this is a reputable well-known company.  They have a secure website.  If you have questions about this site’s security, you can visit the site’s security center at http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/security-main-outside.  You have $100,000.00 account insurance on unauthorized transactions as well as PayPal’s Identity Verification Program and you can check for yourself to see that their site is secure…

 

 

Secure Websites:
Whenever entering sensitive personal information (such as checking account or credit card numbers) onto any website, make sure that the website encrypts the information you send to, and receive from, the site. When you log into your PayPal account, you will always be on a secure website. You can check if the website you are using has this type of security in two ways:

 

 

Please keep in mind that your PASSWORD is what protects your account.  DO NOT TELL ANYONE YOUR PASSWORD!  DO NOT WRITE YOUR PASSWORD somewhere where it can be discovered and linked to your paypal account.  It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to choose a password that you feel is secure and to keep it to yourself. 

 

VERIFICATION

 

What does it mean to be Verified?

A Verified member maintains a confirmed bank account on our site. Because International members cannot use our verification system, no International member will have a Verified status.

Why does PayPal ask its members to become Verified?

Because financial institutions are required by law to screen account holders, PayPal's verification process increases security when you pay parties you do not know. Please note that PayPal's verification system does not constitute an endorsement of a member, nor a guarantee of a member's business practices. You should always consider other indicators when evaluating members, including length of PayPal membership and reputation scores (on eBay or other auction sites, if applicable).

Do I have to become Verified?

Once you have sent $1,000 with your PayPal account, you must become Verified to continue sending money with our service. International accounts are subject to different limits.

How does verification benefit me?

Verification gives you some more information about the people with whom you transact through PayPal, so you may make more informed decisions. Please remember that verification is currently available only to our U.S. members, and a status of International simply means that we are unable to ascertain more about the member at this time.

How do I take advantage of PayPal's verification process?

There are several ways to take advantage of PayPal's verification process and decrease your fraud risks:

 

The PayPal Verification System

 

 

To become Verified, a PayPal Member must provide us with proof that he or she has a checking account. This tells us that you have passed the screening process of a financial institution. That increases security in the PayPal network, lowers our risk, and enables us to let you spend more through the system!

Become a Verified user and you could win our $1,000 Weekly Sweepstakes! To enter, all you have to do is Verify your PayPal account by registering and confirming a checking account.

If winning $1,000 is not enough, here are more reasons to become Verified:

  • Your sending limit will be lifted
  • You will be able to send money using your checking account -- and you'll receive an additional entry in our Sweepstakes each time you do!
  • You can easily add funds to your PayPal account from your checking account
  • You can use PayPal as your financial hub to transfer funds among accounts at different financial institutions

How do I become verified? 2 easy steps:

  1. Add a checking account (after you log in to your PayPal account)
  2. Confirm your checking account

 

          To Confirm your checking account, paypal actually GIVES you money.  Yes, you heard me right.  They DEPOSIT two dollar amounts (actually cents amounts) into your checking account.  All you have to do is contact your bank (telephone call, personal visit, or via your monthly statement) to find out what the amounts deposited into your checking were, and then confirm them by logging into your paypal account and typing the required amounts into the correct boxes on your screen.  SIMPLE and it not only doesn’t COST you a thing, it is secure and it actually deposits money into your account, no string attached.  They never debit that money from your account.  It is yours to keep. 

 

The only fee associated with paypal is the fee to RECEIVE money. 

Fees for U.S. Accounts

International Fee Schedule

 

 

PayPal only charges Premier and Business accounts to receive payments. Fees are the same for receiving international payments.

It is always FREE to:

·  Open an account

·  Send money

·  Add funds

·  Withdraw money to a bank account

 

Learn more about the Standard and Merchant Rates.

 


Receiving Payments

 

Account Type

Fee

Fee if
PayPal Preferred

 


Premier or Business
Standard Rate


2.9% + 30¢


1.4% + 30¢

 


Premier or Business
Merchant Rate


2.2% + 30¢


0.7% + 30¢

 


Personal*


Free


N/A

 

 eCheck payments have a maximum fee of $5.
 PayPal Preferred fees calculated by subtracting 1.5% debit card cashback from the Standard and Merchant Rate fees.
*Personal Accounts are limited to receiving non-credit card funded payments.

As you can see above, the fees to receive money are minimal.  30 cents is less than the cost of a stamp.  If you have an eBay auction and you are worried about the cost of the PayPal fees, then increase your shipping and handling fee by 30 cents.  This will cover your PayPal per transaction fee and not break your buyers heart, they are paying you 30 cents and it is saving them the 34 cents to send you their payment with a stamp on it.  I personally eat every PayPal fee.  30 cents plus my 1.4 percent fee is MINIMAL compared to the fact that I might not have sold the item at all.  If I would have sold it at my town-wide garage sale I might have sold it for 25 cents or even a dollar, but chances are the same items on online auction sites would be going for significantly higher than your average garage sale price.  So I am making money anyway. 

It is free to use paypal to send money.  It is also less expensive to use Paypal than to use eBay’s online Billpoint payment system.  The fees are less and the system is (in my opinion) simpler to use.  You can even send money to your Aunt Marge and Uncle Earl in Timbuktu…. Even if they aren’t eBay members…. Because it doesn’t cost Aunt Marge anything to join (Uncle Earl won’t even know what she’s up to.) and as long as she has an e-mail address you can send her money and it will be in her paypal account immediately.  Remember the days of wiring somebody money?  Never again.  Mailing that check to Your Granddaughter in California for those 5 boxes of Girl Scout cookies?  Nope.   Simple.  Cheap. Secure. 

PayPal is also better than eBay’s Online Bill-payments because Paypal lets you choose what to do with the money you receive.  Billpoint does not.  PayPal says you can keep your money here in your account or you can deposit it into your checking whenever you wish at no cost to you.  Billpoint tells you when you can have your money, and it is not nearly as fast as paypal- as a matter of fact I think it takes almost as much as a week to get the cash into your checking, and they don’t tell you when to expect it.  It has always been my opinion that if it is my money, I decide when and where it is.  So I personally prefer paypal. 

 

 

ALSO check out PayPal’s brand new FREE Online Bill Pay Service for Premier Members!!

Pay Your Bills Using PayPal

 

Use your PayPal account to pay your bills online with PayPal's FREE BillPay service, available exclusively to Verified PayPal members! You can enjoy these benefits:

  • Save time - Pay over 1,000 U.S. billers with a few clicks of your mouse
  • Avoid late payments - Most BillPay payments are completed in two business days
  • Track your payment history - Review or download your payment history anytime
  • No additional signup is required
  • Best of all, BillPay is FREE!

 

GOODBYE to paying your bank for what is provided FREE online. 

Another good free bill bay service is www.checkfree.com (pay Illinois Power, Verizon, AT&T, Sallie Mae Student Loans, Phillips 66 and Citgo Gas Cards, many many store Credit Cards, as well as Cingular Wireless and Hundreds of other Vendors- using your checking account!)

 

With PayPal you can sort your transactions by date to see your account history.  This will show the debits and credits made to your checking/credit card as well as who you sent the money to, how much money you sent, the date it was sent, etc. 

 

 

Please use this button to sign up for your PayPal Account!

 

I accept payment through PayPal!

 

For spreading the word, taking the time to educate you about PayPal and putting this paypal link on my website, I can earn $5.00 for each person I refer – And each new Qualified Member will also receive $5.00 in their paypal account for following my referral link.

 

 

 

Related Internet Links:  The following are links to internet news articles and other information that regards                                                   PayPal.  Please Check them out to get a wide view of opinions and information.

 

                        MSNBC  Editorial on PayPal   http://www.msnbc.com/news/511209.asp  

                                    (I disagree with his opinions, but everyone has different experiences and therefore derives                                     different conclusions, so you should investigate all aspects.  Sometimes Safety and Security                                     Compromises Simplicity.  I would rather be safe.  But that’s just my personal Opinion.)

 

                        MSNBC News Article- Unsatisfied Customers File Lawsuit against PayPal

                                    http://www.msnbc.com/news/712822.asp?cp1=1

 

                        PayPal Warning- A website set up by what appears to be a dissatisfied customer

                                    http://www.paypalwarning.com/

 

                        C-Net News Story on PayPal Lawsuit

                                    http://news.com.com/2100-1017-842240.html

 

                        Louisiana Forces PayPal to STOP Operation within State

                                    http://news.com.com/2100-1017-834313.html

 

                        PayPal Warns it could be forced to Shut Down!

                                    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2002/02/14/financial1705EST0169.DTL

 

Paypal Tanks As Ebay Revs Up

“This one is actually bad news. Hard as it is to imagine, ebay's Billpoint is even worse than Paypal. As much as I'd like to see Paypal learn that they can't ride roughshod over their customers, I don't want to see Paypal go away and ebay take over. As for ebay, they actually have it pretty easy. They can sit back and watch their competitor shoot themselves in both feet with their arrogant and heavy-handed mistreatment of their customers. Just as ebay stood by while Yahoo Auctions all but committed suicide, they can do the same with Paypal.”

Stock News http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/stocks/timarango/10009911.html

 

What does the Better Business Bureau Have To Say About PayPal!?             http://news.com.com/2100-1017-251418.html?legacy=cnet

 

This Site Is One I HIGHLY RECOMMEND Checking out…

            http://www.ygoodman.com/paypal.html

            An excellent compilation of actual customer stories as well as verified news articles             and other information.  EVERYTHING is here.

 

                        AuctionWatch’s PayPal Message Board

                                    http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/list.html?num=47

 

 

So My personal Opinion, after reading all of these articles…. ? I have never had a bad experience with PayPal.  I had no problems finding PayPal’s customer service number.  I have used it many times without a single problem and called their number and received excellent customer service.  I do know that Ron had a hard time finding their number and I had to get it for him.  I don’t know how hard Ron looked, but I will agree that it isn’t posted in plain view for you to find.  I do think that there is something to be said for frozen accounts.  I know that this is a confusing process and if you are new to it, you could easily make a mistake, resulting in your account being frozen.  But the REASON that these accounts are being frozen is for security purposes.  Because when you can’t go through the verification processes, etc. correctly, they automatically assume that there is a problem… possibly credit card fraud or a scandal of that type.  Many of these complaints are from people who admitted they did not know how to follow this or that instruction and it lead them to trouble. 

 

I think about my ATM”DEBIT card.  When I can’t remember my pin number and I try about 15 times the ATM locks my card for about a day – Is this a bad thing or a good thing?  That depends on how you look at it.  Sure, it may REALLY tick me off, but is it the bank’s fault for trying to protect me, or is it my fault for not remembering my pin number?  It all depends on how you look at it.  From what I am seeing, the problem lies not in the freezing of the accounts, but in the inability to get them unfrozen.  I can’t tell you if it is because it is impossible to do so, or if because the people who have their accounts frozen are simply unable to understand the steps it takes to do so.  My advice to you as a consumer is to do your research.  Last week I was a PayPal Cheerleader.  This week I have put down my pom-poms and decided that it may be best to ride this one out. 

 

I recommend not signing up for PayPal in the middle of this “situation.”  Wait until the investigation proceeds.  If PayPal does get shut down, it won’t have done you any good to have given them your information as a user and then not be able to use the service.  I will be honest.  After reading all of these “horror stories” I have been tempted to just “Un-Sign” up for PayPal.  But after gathering my senses I remember that most of them could be urban legend material.   They could be people who are dissatisfied for other reasons…. Perhaps they are scam artists and hackers who are ticked off that PayPal caught them and stopped them from their heinous actions.  They could be spreading false information and rumors just out of spite.  So I will just sit back and watch with wide-open eyes.  I suggest you do the same. 

 

 

"Secure, instantaneous payments"

-USA Today


"The best solution"

-Esquire


"The money's good"

-Wall Street Journal

 

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